Hey can we translate 魔物 as Demon instead of Goblin? Goblin is fitting for the 1* units but I don't think it does for the Fairy Tale princesses and Walpurgis for example. (I know it does literally mean Goblin but it sounds weird IMO)
I thought so too. I even tried to look at different Japanese dictionaries to convince myself it could also be translated as Demon or something else, but no luck. Go ahead and change it. If anyone mentions it in the forums we can discuss it further there.
Aah yes of course! The units pages we have so far have been using: Small, medium, large, and extra large. The last one (超特大) hasn't been used yet, but that would be super-extra large, correct? I was actually going to make a post about what terms we should use, but seeing as we have 200+ pages using these they'll be no point.
Hi, since we finished the unit list I thought maybe we could link it on the front page, but I noticed it was already kind of busy with the casinos, guerrilla and ongoing/future events, and I was thinking maybe we can change the layout a bit? Like making some stuff under a collapse like guerrilla bosses' timetable, or maybe changing it a bit to make it more pratical esthetically pleasing or something? What do you think?
(Also except for quests' pages is there anything else important to work on? I was thinking of doing a page with login bonus/rank up bonus like the one that was on the dgdb site,and one for xp curves. BTW great work on that Leader skill page! It's really helpful)
I wouldn't mind moving some stuff around! I can make the Casino timetable collapseable, and maybe the links on the right can be better organized? They look sorta awkward there. I would've liked to link the Unit List (and other things) on the navigation bar like the CH Wikia, but without admin rights this can't be done. A lot can't be done actually, I was going to make a Stamina calculator to put on the front page like the PAD wikia but without admin rights I can't do it.
I made a page with the login bonuses a while back! We are overdue for a Rank Up table and a Unit EXP table though, so maybe we can start on those? Thanks! I plan on doing one for Active Skills and Normal Skills too.
Yeah I think it's a bit strange that we have the IG Menu info on the right (with the Event menu somehow there), maybe we can add the unit list there? With a collapsible menu to search them by number, rarity, race or element. And another menu with useful info like login bonus or leader skills? I think something like the PAD wiki sidebar would be nice! That'stoo bad for the stamina calculator :( I hope Senvious can come make to give you the admin rights at least!
Oops sorry I didn't notice your login bonuses page! Thank for doing it! I will begin working on the Rank Up page then!
I didn't even notice that the events link was there. Yeah, we definitely need to fix that. So how about I just make general Main Game Navigation and In-depth Explanations pages and put the links there? I'll make a template for the Unit List and probably one for events as well. Senvious has gone MIA so I don't know, if they don't come back in February I'll probably put up an Adoption Form on the Community Wikia. Then I can make you and Makenshi admins as well~
Making the IG navigation and the in-depth explanations pages instead of links in the sidebar would be better indeed. Good luck for the Adoption Form if Senvious doesn't come back! We have all the requirements so they should accept it if we have to do it =)
Sending this to both you and Minimal, but the generic units are sort of boring so I think I'm going to start skipping around if that's fine with you (i-its not because I'm completely stuck on phrasing for the first wind dragon or anything!)
Are there any series in particular that you're interested in or would like to see prioritized? I'm probably going to start with the elemental spirits first.
I was actually going to suggest this to you if it helped with translating! The CH wiki jumps around a lot with the stories, there's nothing wrong with us doing so too.
I think units from "popular" series should be translated first, ie. the fairies, KotRT, Scientists, Mech girls etc. I have a feeling most people are interested in those rather than let's say... the Pok-gurus.
If it helps I can set up a poll and link it to the forums to see what people would like to see translated. Only if you're 100% okay with this of course. Thank you so much for doing this!
I wanted to make a poll because I feel bad not including more people, haha. And maybe it'll get them more interested in the wikia too! I have it ready, so I'll be posting it soon, hopefully we get a good amount of input.
Do you have any good symbols we might be able to use to annotate stories with TL notes and not look too intrusive? There was some extra stuff I wanted to mention for Pavlov(2) and Schrodinger(1). I originally tried *, but it seems to turn into a bullet point when I put it on a new line. I temporarily substituted for the JP version ＊, but it's too large and looks sort of tacky. Any suggestions?
If you surround the asterisk with the wikicode <nowiki></nowiki> it shouldn't turn into a bullet point. Other than that, maybe footnotes could work? The Community Wikia details how to use them, but I don't if it'll look out of place or not...
It looks great! I think they are worth mentioning, it's really good for the things you can't exactly translate to English. If you wouldn't have noted the "cat-back" phrase on Schrodinger's story I would still be wondering why they chose that name for him. I think what I'm trying to say that it's good for details that can be lost in translation ^^
It's okay, thanks a lot for doing the other ones actually! The way the images appear in the game data is strange, so I usually have to edit them indiviually. The Wikia database center has been acting up these couple of days, so that's probably why the uploader wasn't working >.<
Oh, is that how you've been doing it? The ones I did are actually screen caps of the pictures on the Chinese Wiki. I'm assuming the strange thing you mentioned is the fact that the character images lay on a transparent background. The chinese wiki, if you noticed, just has the background image layered under it. I could not figure out how to do that, so I just screencapped it and saved it that way. Whatever works~, right?
I don't think I'm ready for Noah just yet, even though I think she's cute for a supposed old man. However, I would love to try the other descends should the time come such as Arthur and Replica. I recently did some Rare Scratches when Fatima had a 5x chance to appear. However, I wasn't able to get her, but I obtained Ruri, which I evolved just a few days ago. Also, I was able to get Inari from her Guerrilla event, the Fairy Tale girls excluding Cinderella, evolved some of the units from the Steins Gate event and acquired Shogo Makishima from the PS collab.
Anyway, my teams at the moment are mono-fire (Evolved Bedivere/Red Riding Hood/Evolved Inari/Stiyl Magnus), mono-water (Ruri/Alice/Mayuri/Misha) and mono-void (Shogo/Hyouka/Ghost/Orianna). I'm currently in the process of trying to recruit Undine friends to boost the power of the water team, but it seems that I'm unable to persuade them. Please let me know if I either need to make adjustments and/or suggestions. I can gladly attach a photo of my unit list so far.
It's okay to skip out on Noah! She's out first technical dungeon so it's a challenge. Arthur and Burst are actually two of the easiests descends in the game, so with your current teams I believe you can take both down seeing as you have 2.5x HP leaders. I noticed that most descends in this game just require you to be able to tank, unlike PAD were spike teams are the norm. So basically if you can take a hit from them you are fine. After obtaining Arthur you can pretty much curbstomp everything in the game besides Noah. I think the hard part is waiting for them to return ^^;
I think your teams are good! You'll eventually start replacing the collab units with weekly series units as they have generally better stats and skills. How are you faring with those by the way? Were the Ancient Palace Dragons a challenge or were you able to handle them?
Thanks for the honest reply. Maybe by the time Arthur and Burst return, I might be more than capable of taking them down. I'm trying to level up using the robots from the Psycho Pass Collab, much like what I did with the Toaru Collab and the Misakas. It might not be much EXP, but it's worth it because most of the time I miss out on the Casinos.
I have been able to take down the Ancient Palace Dragons, but only up to Master level. Arthur friends helped me out excluding Anders since I wanted to try clearing that with my mono-fire team. I've acquired Cougania, Anders and Amerikana so far. Seeing as though I have some of the dragons, Noah would be a good leader for them since she can give HP/ATK boosts to Dragons. I also want her because she's adorable. XD
What do you think of having Loki in a party for a Void team? Is he reliable in a way? I ask this because I'm attempting to acquire him, but that HP is too much. I got him down to half health, but I got panel-trolled and wasn't able to heal in time. It honeslty felt like a descend boss to me. Speaking of which, I forgot to mention that I got Cosmo as well. She might be good for a dark team.
I'm sure you'll be able to beat them when they come along again, I don't think that's for a while though. I have a feeling they are going to bring Walpurgis back first... I know what you mean, the Casino times aren't exactly ideal for many in the west, staying up to 4AM for eggs? Ack.
That's great! By the way if you ever need to me to switch to Arthur (or Ifrit/Bedivere/Breunor for your mono-fire/water teams) let me know here or on the forums, it's too bad Divine Gate doesn't have an ingame PM system. Speaking of Noah, if your Water team can go over 50k HP next time she descends you can handle her as long as no panel trolling occurs (or a wind dragon back attacks you when trying to get to her). So if for some reason you're not able to obtain Burst the best team to beat Noah with is a water team with a healer.
I think Loki is a good addition to a Void team, his stats are good and his low cooldown AS can prove useful in dire situations. The only problem you can have with him is his 5Mil EXP curve, but honestly if a unit is going to prove useful in a team I see nothing wrong with investing in it. Congrats on Cosmo! If you were able to beat her I think you can beat Loki, and if you do beat him you can definetly beat Arthur as Loki is tougher than him!
Well, that gives me enough time to train until they arrive. I also realized that if you have a mono-team besides void, you can take half or double the damage from enemies. I noticed it when I was replaying Jupiter Lounge. Did you ever notice that?
I've actually strayed away from the forums. I'm not going to return there anymore for personal reasons. Sorry about that. Besides, the units you usually put up help me even when I least expect it. I'm gonna try to contact hakimiru from here, as well. The max health I've gotten was around 33K. I think for the fun of it, I'll try seeing how hard Noah's dungeon before she goes away tomorrow. It'll be a test to see how far I can get through descends.
That's good to hear. Of course, I'll have to level up a lot to get more HP to survive his attacks in case I don't get heal panels to show up. Cosmo was actually easy because I used an Arhur to one-shot her.
Yeah! If your team has units with the dominant attribute you can resist the attack by 10% per unit. So if you have a full Wind team a Water enemy only does half its usual damage! Of course this also works the other way around, if a Fire attribute enemy attacks you'll receive double the damage. That's why a Water team has it easy against Noah.
That's fine, I understand. I haven't been posting much either due to personal reasons as well. That's good that my units still benefit you, I never know if I have the right units up for my friends at times. Let me know how it goes with Noah!
I almost wish PAD had that, but then it would be a double-edge sword, wouldn't it?
Well, the only time it doesn't benefit is when you have Burst since A) she's kinda hard to use for me and B) I don't really have any machines. Whenever you do have her up, I usually use it for EXP boosting. (I wonder if you do the same for me... XD) I see you have Kay up at the moment and that can probably help for a mono-wind team I'm working on. I don't know of any leads that I have that can be useful. So far, the only wind leader I have is Amane Suzuha. I would love to acquire a Sylph, but I'm starting to get PAD syndrome on the Rare Scratches, meaning that I don't usually get the units I desire.
Also, I attempted to fight Loki again, got him down to 25% health with my fire team, but I forgot to put the heal panels in the boost panel to at least survive a hit. I didn't want to chip because I'll know that the next time I see him, he'll be mine. To be honest, I'm not sure I'll get far into Noah's dungeon. If I actually reach her without dying from the other monsters, I'll consider that a success. I don't know why, but I'm infatuated by her...
I feel like there would be an outburst if they did that in PAD, haha.
The leader I have up usually corresponds to the Casino of the day so that my friends can use them to level up, I had Kay up because of the Wind Casino. So tonight I should have Arthur up~ I've been using Burst a lot for Casino farming because it's really quick, and I've actually used your Kaori when I ran out of Burst friends since my team is primarly Void! I know what you mean about that syndrome, I started caring about what monsters I get in PAD recently and because of that I got five golems last godfest...
Yes you will definitely get him, I believe in you! Also, Noah is now your DG waifu don't question it.
Outburst, yes. But like I said, it can be a double-edged sword. You either love it or hate it. I mean, if there was a void-like element in PAD, everyone can just use a non-element team when it came down to it.
Ah, I see. I really do need to level my Alisa, but I still have yet to find a fourth light unit. I have a Tiny Valkyrie that I got when I did Cougania's dungeon, but haven't evolved her. I'm actually liking my new team of mono-wind with Amane as leader. Paired with a Sylph or something like her, it works. It's hard to do a game non-IAP, but I've been doing it for JPN PAD. It's just that I'll only use chips whenever there are monsters that I really want, like a Fairy Queen or Fatima.
I've been getting closer and closer to beating Loki. However, I'll only attempt fighting him when he's in Charcoal Jail, for stamina reasons. I'm currently charging stamina to attempt Noah. I really love having Ruri as a leader. She guarantees that you don't get back attacked, which I'm sure is useful for descends. And yes, Noah is my waifu. I just wish she didn't wear those clogs when she evolves.
Well, I attempted the dungeon and died on the first floor. I didn't know that the monsters always attack nonstop. What's worse that I didn't encounter any fire monsters, so I got killed by two light dragons and a water dragon. And I was so looking forward to see Noah and her beauty... Guess I still have a ways to go before I touch descends.
Well, I've actually evolved some of my units, such as Ghost to her final form and Tiny Valkyrie to her second form. I also decided to making a mono-light team with Arisa/Valkyrie/Cougania/Feyris. I've yet to see Loki appear ever since I last talked to you, but I'm not giving up hope for him. :D
Also, do you know what the next descend is? Would I be able to confront it?
Oh I didn't know you had Arisa! That's good. Loki is having his last appearance today if you want to try one last time, Dos: Golddorado is next but he isn't that great.
The next descend, do you mean a new one or returning? I have a feeling they are going to bring back Walpurgis next, but there are rumors going around in the JP community that Arthur might be coming back due to him getting first place in the popularity poll. If you mean new, I think it'll be the "leader" of the new Gate Keepers if they turn out to be a weekly series. We only have three sketches for those however, and they are probably aren't going to be released until this Casino Rush event is over. Of course none of this is concrete, it has been really quite lately ~.~
If it is Walpurgis you can bring a strong Arthur friend and one-shot her. Just be careful navigating the floors, there are a lot of traps and the mob units hit hard. If you don't want to use Arthur you'll need a team with a lot of HP as she does 18k~ damage every turn.
Yeah, but I would rather have a Will-O-Wisp, to be honest. I also made a makeshift dark team with Mordred as lead, along with Rintaro, Cosmo and Kaguya. I also have Moeka, but I don't know who I'd replace to include her. I don't think I'll try Loki because I'm so far saving stamina to evolve Cosmo and for the Casino later today. I think I'll hold off Cosmo for tomorrow, as I'd really love to level up my units to a suitable level.
As for the descends, if Walpurgis is returning, I'll use my mono-water team along with a max Arthur. I'm looking at the stats for the dungeon and it looks like I would benefit not being back attacked, which is what Ruri would be used for. Seeing as though I have some human units in my team, they'd benefit from Arthur's LS. Would Walpurgis be good on as a sub/leader on a dark team, or would she benefit from Fatima as a friend leader?
I would love to have Will-O-Wisp too, but would the RS ever be so kind to us?
Your Dark team is good as it is, Moeka has the same stats as Rintaro but he is more useful because of his delay AS. Cosmo and Kaguya are stronger than her so it's a given that you wouldn't replace them with her. Aah yes you should do the casino today then, not sure if you know this already but the casino today (Colorful Rush) has a high + unit drop rate. Take full advantage of that!
You're lucky~ With Ruri you'll have an easier time in that descend, all you have to do is watch out for those traps.
Walpurgis is actually one of the least coveted descend units (the other being Titania) because her skills and LS aren't extraodinary, but I think she can be a good sub on a dark team because she has good HP. If you get her you'll want to replace Kaguya with her, their skills are similar but Walpurgis is stronger and her PS always activates unlike Kaguya. If you want to use her as a leader definitely get Fatima friends as you will be lacking HP.
All right, then. I'll just have to hope I get enough of the color/+ eggs to boost my teams, especially with my water team. I'm actually glad I'm making teams, even if they aren't as powerful with the right units. But I seem to be doing well so far with the units I've gotten by being non-IAP.
Well, Walpurgis will certainly beef up my dark team's HP. I'm still unsure on replacing Kaguya with her should I get her because Kaguya's AS (50,260 at max level) does more damage than Walpurgis' (15460), but the latter gives health back, which is a necessity since I may mess up on Cosmo's activation for healing. I'll have to think about it when I get her. Speaking of which, if I use a unit's AS that boosts attack for other color units (such as Cougania or Misha), it also boosts any AS of that color, yes? Are there any units other than Egyptra that can boost Dark attacks? I have boosts for all colors but Dark.
You have five whole teams as a non-IAP, that's really good. I know some IAP players that have less, but I guess you can blame that on bad luck (´･ω･｀)
You can always switch them out depending on the situation, I've been doing this with Walpurgis and Cosmo. Yes they boost AS damage as well, I tested it with Hempel and Shadow to be 100% sure. Egyptra is the only farmable dark unit that has a Dark Boost AS, Hempel, Levi, and Shinya are the others but they are RS/LS only. We are due for an Ancient Palace Rush so you can try and get Egyptra then.
I guess you're right about that. I should be lucky I've gotten the units that dropped/scratched with the limited chips I have.
Hm, that could work. I could always use Kaguya if I want to go an attacker route while having a friend that only has Dark Rise: Assault for dark or use Walpurgis with a Dark Rise: Shift friend for a balanced team. I can't believe I'm actually making somewhat better teams here than in PAD, and I've spent a ton money on PAD. XD
Anyway, it's Casino time for me! I'm in luck because if I don't get enough eggs tonight, there's always 9:00 AM, and that's when I head off for work so I can get more on the commute. For once, I'm fortunate to be in Group B. The bad thing is that I need to do the first level in order to do the next since this is my first time doing this dungeon. ^^;
If you still have some chips left the Mr.☆Divine selection just started, and it's the best time to scratch as all 3☆ units have been removed for the event. I'm going to try, maybe. Will o' Wisp is up so it's like they heard our call :P
This casino rush was a blessing then, huh? I really like the Colorful Casino it's only 30 stamina, and the drop rate is really good. It's too bad they rarely bring it around.
I don't know if I can trust it. I remember scratching two evolved versions of the elemental dragons along with Ruri when I attempted to get Fatima. I only have 15 chips, so I'll probably have even less of a chance of getting Will o' Wisp. I might skip it until I get more chips, which might be more of a crapshoot since I'm already at the Kaluza-Klien Laboratory and there's only one more story area left until I'm done with them.
Yeah, it is. However, I'm not getting the color eggs that I wanted. Even worse, most of the eggs I get are the small ones, even when I do the 30 stamina one. Only got 1 king, but at least I have more chances tomorrow. :P